's extremely difficult if not impossible for anyone to win statewide -- >> guest: steve, i disagree with that analysis. abraham lincoln was a third party in 1860. in 1856, you had the democratic party and the wig -- and abraham lincoln wasn't on the ballot in a number of states, particularly in the south, yet he won the election. he didn't win a majority of the popular vote, he won the majority of the electoral vote and in 1832, i would submit that there were two parties there and it was henry clay and andrew jackson and jackson won the overwhelming popular vote. back in 1824, there was certainly several different parties running and then, of course, john quincy adams won that race and that was -- you had at least three, maybe four, parties then. host: but even -- >> guest guest the electoral votes. host: but even if you take it to more recent campaigns, 1968, the caller referring to george wallace did get 46 electoral votes but didn't get close to winning the presidency, ross perot, '92 and '96, getting nearly 20 percent of the vote in '92 but not one electoral vote. guest: he got
